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Darwin-L Message Log 8:43 (April 1994)
Academic Discussion on the History and Theory of the Historical Sciences
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<8:43>From LANGDON@GANDLF.UINDY.EDU Thu Apr 14 12:29:12 1994 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:29:12 -0500 From: "JOHN LANGDON" <LANGDON@GANDLF.UINDY.EDU> To: darwin-l@ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: sexual selection I thank the many people who have responded to my query about sexual selection on and off the net. In fact, I have had so many replies that I fear I cannot make personal response to all. They have been helpful in focusing my thinking and some tackle some of the specific issues I an trying to address. I have seen several restatements of the standard lines. I accept the theory but have qualms about applying it to humans. Bonnie Blackwell replies... > >but what about warfare as a method of selecting males in the middle ages. to which James Maclaurin replies . . . > I agree with Blackwell that this is a case of Male competition (in some > sense of competition) but whether or not it counts as an important case of > sexual selection depends on several factors. In addition to Maclaurin's critique of this, I add, what is the relationship between such combat and mating? If losers lost simply because they were dead, this is natural selection. It becomes sexual selection only if one can relate it to mating preferences. Likewise, Wright's response that we can expect males to have greater variance in RS is reasonable. But his previous statement "the evidence suggests that sexual selection has been more intense among men" does not automatically follow, however many times I see it in print. High variance in RS among males does not equal sexual selection, although it is a necessary condition. What is the evidence that sexual selection of males has been an important force shaping human evolution since the ape-human split? Dimorphism of body size has diminished several times (continually?) since the Miocene. Evidence for sperm competition is ambiguous, at best. About the only striking acquisitions of human males that are likely to be explained by sexual selection have been (1) beards and (2) a tendency to invest in long term pair-bonds. The second is a significant change that appears to have come about in both sexes, but it negates the argument that contemporary male competition centers on promiscuity. In a very skeptical mood, how can we be certain that male behavior is not simply a carry-over of proximate behaviors evolved in the Miocene that no longer have evolutionary significance now that pair-bonding has become so much more important? Let me put it another way, and this is a challenge to all of human sociobiology. Given that (1) the human brain has evolved a capacity for a great range of behavior; and (2) that range includes making rational decisions in our own best interest, when do we ascribe an apparently sensible behavior as an adaptive evolved trait and when is it a non-evolved economic decision? A great deal of promiscuous behavior can be explained as non-evolved pursuit of sexual behavior (specific examples from the literature-- soliciting prostitutes and masturbation). What are the grounds for arguing that these are evolved reproductive strategies? JOHN H. LANGDON email LANGDON@GANDLF.UINDY.EDU DEPARTMENT OF BIOLOGY FAX (317) 788-3569 UNIVERSITY OF INDIANAPOLIS PHONE (317) 788-3447 INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46227
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