Below is the first section of public comments on the UNCG Master
Plan posted to the Perkins & Will bulletin board from
March–June 2001. The second section is available on page 2001B. An earlier comment
period ran from April–July 2000; those comments are available on page 2000A and page 2000B. Because the bulletin
board software was somewhat awkward to use, a few people duplicated
their posts inadvertently; these duplications have been retained
without editing to protect the integrity of the record.
Adjacent Campus Spaces and Places
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More general problems |
Posted by: Faculty |
6/13/2001 |
- The message in this category from 5/18 deserves a response. The
reason most of the messages posted here have been about Peabody
Park is that this board was created specifically to address the
physical master plan for the campus proposed by the architects.
That plan includes the destruction of more of Peabody Park. It is
certainly true that there are many serious problems within the
university, and some of them have been mentioned here; but those
were not the main purpose of this board, which was created
specifically to talk about the campus physical plan. The issue of
Peabody Park, though, is a perfect sympton of all the other serious
problems in the institution, and they all are manifest in this one
case. At the root of many of the university's problems is the
vulgarity of the board of trustees and the financial obscenity of
division I athletics - that has driven the campus into the ground
economically, such that anything and everything must be done to
deal with the enormous debt the university has accumulated.
Likewise, the culture of public lying that pervades the division of
business affairs is something that has no place in a university.
Public lying is virtually an official policy, and until all the
senior officials in that department are replaced it won't be
possible to make any improvements, or even know exactly what the
situation is. The chancellor surrounds herself with sycophants,
repeats everything they tell her, sets up fraudulent committees to
justify destructive actions, and then wonders why she isn't
respected. UNCG has the potential to be a first rate university. It
is very sad to see it driven into the ground, and to think how much
will be lost forever (more of Peabody Park, Chancellor's House,
Forney House, etc., etc.) before it can be turned around
again.
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This page and UNCG |
Posted by: Resident Student |
6/11/2001 |
- Does anyone wonder why you cannot hear things from the
administration that you here from any ordinary student? Do you
wonder why things don't seem to change? Why the website never has
the information you are looking for. You don't know what happened
to your campus mailbox, how to get in-state tuition or what ever
happened to your registration. Your education? I've been going to
UNCG for four years now and all I have ever done is complain about
the school policies and all the red tape surrounding them. I've
realized now that I don't want to graduate from an embarrassment. I
want to tell people that I graduated with the most fulfilling
education you can find. I want to tell people that I graduated from
the best school you can find! Just because I didn't get into Duke
or Yale doesn't mean I have to complain. We need to make a
difference. We need to be able to tell people that we are the U N C
G F#%@ing Spartans! How are we going to do this you ask? How could
anyone accomplish such a goal? Through information and
communication. We need to find out how to get the parking patrol
off our backs, get the buildings built quicker and taller, how to
keep bulldozers out of Peabody park and a number of others
proficiencies. If we can do this and get the administration to let
the answers get put on the home page, on the wall and on the table,
then I believe we will be able to focus on what we are here for in
the first place. We need to stop fussing and start acting. How can
we accomplish this without any sort of organization? I suggest that
you tell everyone of this web page. Have them read it and put in
their two cents. It's a shame that we have to resort to a building
company's site to address our grievances. Read on, the issues are
very concerning.
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This is amazing.... |
Posted by: Resident Student |
5/18/2001 |
- I was a resident student at UNCG for 5 years. I am now out in
the working world and I am amazed at the reaction I get when I tell
people from where I graduated. I can tell you it is not good at
all. UNCG has so many problems, from too many commuter students, to
poor levels of undergraduate admissions. Our retention rate after
freshman year is horrid, and our traditional graduation rate puts
us at the very bottom of the curve when it comes to national
universities. Yet all of the ideas on this board are centered
around a little tract of land on the northeastern parts of campus.
A tract of land, that while pretty, will do nothing to make UNCG a
more attractive place to prepare students to compete for jobs in
today's economy. We graduate a student body that either can't or
won't give back to the university. We underfund most of our
programs, and the average student doesn't leave the university with
the same feelings about it as students from Chapel Hill, Wake and
other area institutions. The focus of these comments should be how
to make UNCG a better place, and it's graduates better citizens,
not whether or not to save some trees. I appreciate your views, and
I see the need to save Peabody Park. I am, however, surprised at
the lack of suggestions to improve campus life and other more
important issues. If the park is all anybody on campus cares about,
then there is no hope for UNCG in the future.
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destruction of Peabody Park |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/23/01 |
- I think this idea is insane. Yes, we are a growing university
community that needs space to expand, but it is unthinkable to tear
apart the most lovely parts of campus in order to accomplish that
expansion. The park is not only a haven for students that need a
break from the tiny dorm rooms and stress of academic life, but
also a valuable teaching facility for our biology program.
Destroying the park will destroy the University. It holds many of
UNCG's memories and beautiful history. If we needed a new dorm and
parking deck, they would have been much more beneficial to the
University than the atrocity of a baseball stadium we recently
acquired. Yes, it is a nice facility, but no one uses it except the
baseball players and their parents. I went to several games, only
to realize that I was sometimes the solitary student supporter for
our team. However, I know that some games receive a little more
attention. So let's say that 50 people go to each game. 50 people
times 2 games a week is 100 people taking up space. Now consider a
parking deck and dorm. If 400 students live in the dorm and there
are 600 passes sold to the parking deck, that is 1000
people...using it every day. That is space for 7000 people per
week. Compare that to 100 a week with the baseball stadium, and it
seems that there was a slight mistake in the designer's plans. Did
we really need the baseball stadium? I think not. It does not
benefit enough students to make it efficient in terms of funds or
use of campus space. However, uprooting a gorgeous outdoor arena
that benefits academics - the thing for which students come to
college - is as simple as signing the contract for the bulldozer.
In short, if the University motto is Students First, it seems that
priorities are severely out of place.
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Ho ho, a new strategy! |
Posted by: Faculty |
4/18/01 |
- Ho ho, we now have a new strategy, but one that is very old for
anyone who has dealt with UNCG business managers before. Clearly in
response to all the criticism about destroying more of Peabody Park
the IdeaXchange page now begins with an announcement that says
"these potential building sites may not be utilized at all even
under the most extreme growth projections." I have heard
*precisely* and *exactly* the same things smarmily declared by
campus business managers, and then the next thing you hear is,
"well, construction begins next month." Alternatively, it will be
said in a few years of this "vague suggestion for the possible
future": "well, you see that's been in our master plan for years
now, and there's no way it can be changed." This whole strategy of
"don't you worry your pretty little head, because this is just a
proposal" is a deliberate, calculated lie designed to divert
attention. I know because I have been fooled by it before; it's not
going to work a second time. Shame on Perkins & Will for
participating in this phony game.
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Peabody Park and Adj campus area |
Posted by: Campus Neighbor |
4/15/01 |
- I had the opportunity to view your beautiful campus during the
University Marshal Induction a few weeks ago. The natural areas
were so well landscaped, plus added significantly to the
surrounding architecture. Students were studying or listening to
music,some just out in the gardens enjoying the flowers. After
attending many functions at NC State with my other son, you have
miles of red brick beaten by a mile, hang on to what makes your
campus unique.
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Preserve Peabody Park |
Posted by: Faculty |
4/11/01 |
- As an instructor of earth and environmental science at UNCG, I
am saddened and dismayed by UNCG''s latest plans to develop yet
more of one of the few remaining natural areas on campus. Peabody
Park is a tremendous teaching and research resource for our
students. Developing more of the park, will directly harm our
students; not to mention the natural environment of GSO.
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Honor code? |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/5/01 |
- I just learned today that the administration is trying to get
rid of part of Peabody Park by saying it isn't part of the park.
This is such an obvious lie I don't know how they can say things
like this. As students, we are required to sign an honor code when
we take exams that says we have not cheated. But the administration
lies to us all the time. Where is the honor code for them? Why
should we have to follow and honor code when they never do?
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The solution proposed below |
Posted by: Faculty |
4/5/01 |
- I just read the proposed solution to the Peabody Park problem
that is proposed below: put the suggested dorm/parking spaces next
to the EUC instead of in Peabody Park. This sounds like an
excellent solution to me, and from what I know of construction I
feel sure it will also be less expensive, as exiting utilities are
much closer to the EUC site that they would be to the Park fields,
the site is already prepared, much less earth moving would be
necessary, etc. Does UNCG not only wish to destroy Peabody Park but
also waste money? If not, then let's adopt the EUC site instead. It
truly is a simple solution to the whole problem, and it would not
disturb our educational park.
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Further destruction of Peabody Park
fields |
Posted by: Faculty |
4/2/01 |
- If you wish to see the location in the Peabody Park fields that
would be destroyed under this plan please point your browser to:
http://peabody.uncg.edu/peabody/images/fields.jpg Construction at
this location was proposed about five years ago, and although the
university tried to slip it through with no one noticing, it was
noticed and there was an enormous outcry, with articles in the
newspaper, angry letters to the trustees, and so on. And here it is
all over again; it is as though the Chancellor's House scandal
didn't teach anyone anything. When this construction was proposed
five years ago, a student/faculty/staff committee appointed by the
Chancellor overwhelmingly rejected it; and yet here it is again,
with the new twist that the area supposedly isn't part of Peabody
Park this time. In addition to destroying more of Peabody Park,
dormitory construction in this area would further isolate the
student population on the margins of the campus, instead of
integrating them into the center; this goes against everything that
has been learned about mixed use and good community design in the
last generation. UNCG planning is a collection of bad ideas that
never seem to die. No one ever learns anything. It is time that the
campus planners were replaced; that is the only way that we will
really be able to create a high-quality educational environment
here.
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campus expansion |
Posted by: Resident Student |
3/29/01 |
- I'm not a resident student, but I am a resident of a
neighboring community. I am pleased to see that UNCG plans to
expand south of Spring Garden over the railroad tracks. This is a
wonderful start towards the revitalization of the area. Bravo UNCG!
I hope to see even more development in that area in the future...
send out a message UNCG. Let us know that you are trying to improve
the community by revitalizing an area that is not doing well
instead of destroying an existing neighborhood that is thriving. If
you do, you will most certainly continue to get my support!
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UNCG can revitalize our community - Will
it? |
Posted by: Resident Student |
3/29/01 |
- I'm not a resident student, but I am a resident of a
neighboring community. I am pleased to see that UNCG plans to
expand south of Spring Garden over the railroad tracks. This is a
wonderful start towards the revitalization of the area. Bravo UNCG!
I hope to see even more development in that area in the future...
send out a message UNCG. Let us know that you are trying to improve
the community by revitalizing an area that is not doing well
instead of destroying an existing neighborhood that is thriving. If
you do, you will most certainly continue to get my support!
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In response to BORDER EXPANSION on
3/23 |
Posted by: Resident Student |
3/29/01 |
- Oh please! What form letter did that comment come from?! You
sound like a pawn saying exactly what someone asked you to. It's a
terrible idea to develop that spot - an even worse idea to put an
ugly pedestrian bridge over Market... and trust me it would be
UGLY. Big, metal, rusty and UGLY!! They say it would be for a
conference center - a joint-venture with someone else. Why do they
need a conference center anyways. It's been proven to be a bad
business decision at so many other universities. UNCG is just
trying to test the waters... Here's my official opinion: Please
leave the strip between Friendly and Market alone.
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Border expansion |
Posted by: Resident Student |
3/23/01 |
- I am a recent Graduate, not a student. I atended UNCG for 4.5
years and have heard all the debate on expanding the borders of the
campus. I think you should greatly consider expanding beyond Aycock
to the west and beyond Market to the north and use bridges to
overcome concerns of students crossing heavy traffic.
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Campus Safety
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Re: Fraternities |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
6/20/2001 |
- Aww, poor baby is upset. Why don't you go beat somebody up,
maybe that will make you feel better.
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Fraternities |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
6/19/2001 |
- The school needs to get with the program of most other
Universities and attract students who will take root in the
community. One way to do this is to build a fraternity row in order
to have housing that the students will not look forward to leaving
at each small break. I find it amusing that a "Neighbor" of the
campus enjoys calling the fraternities organized gangs. I believe
that term should be reserved for the local neighborhood
associations, which have now split into warring factions who can no
longer live with each not to mention having to live near a college.
These people should wake up and realize that noone takes them
seriously because they have retained their radical ideas in what
has become a more conservative society. I don't know if any of you
neighbors have noticed, but the city is doing everything they can
to try to attract twenty-somethings to remain in the city. This is
something they call "revitalization." Apparantly they are tiring of
the codgy attitudes of the current population that is resulting in
a lagging business environment. The Fraternities and Sororities on
this campus do many things in the community in addition to raising
large amounts of money for National Philanthropies helping battered
women, people with disabilities and the Make A Wish foundation.
When was the last time someone from College Hill did anything to
help anyone but themselves? Wake up, you live in "College" Hill.
Just because you were robbed of a full college experience, don't
take it out on those experiencing one right now by saying they are
in a gang. I'm sure the members of the leadership of our country -
most of which have belonged to fraternities - to include the
President of the United States would take exception to your
treatment and attitude toward them. You have probably never even
met one of the members personally before bashing them. If you would
like to, go downtown and introduce yourself to Congressman Howard
Coble - he is a member of one of the chapters from this campus and
proudly hangs the membership shingle on the wall in his local
office. Tell him he is a gang member.
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Please don't destroy our
park!!!! |
Posted by: Resident Student |
6/13/2001 |
- Just in the past 50 years, most of the park has all ready been
destroyed. We sit back and watch it get smaller and smaller.
Eventually we'll have to say, there used to be a park there, but
not anymore. So many things enjoy our park. Not only students and
faculty, but many plants and animals make their home there also.
It's the best guide for biology ans science majors, and perfect for
those more students that don't "get" science to really appreciate
it and understand it better. Just because it's cheapier to plow
down a bunch of trees than to build up on land we already have
destroyed doesn't mean it's right. There are concerns about the
money and the room but what about the beauty of our campus. It
should be a place people want to come and enjoy their surroundings
while getting a great education, that's what makes a grea college,
no one needs bigger buildings or more parking lots to fill those
needs. UNCG always prides themselves on small personal classes.
With these small classes, on a pretty day you can take the whole
class out to Peabody park and learn in nature. These are some of my
greatest memories. Expanding the school would destroy this option,
you can't take big classes outside, and it's not even an option if
there isn't a place to go. Please don't destroy our park!!!
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Campus expansion |
Posted by: Resident Student |
6/11/2001 |
- It may be expensive, but I know how UNCG is on looks. You
should destroy the Industrial buildings on Lee St. and build a
giant engineering school over the train tracks. This will provide a
means to get around the railroad tracks and a great looking
front.
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Just Perfect . . . |
Posted by: Resident Student |
5/29/2001 |
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Financial AId |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
5/17/2001 |
- to all whom have had problems with financial aid, which is
probably everyone who attends UNCG. The financial aid office are
thiefs!!!! How can you send money back to a students/parents lender
AFTER the money has already been awarded and the semester is
already over? Now your saying I have to pay this money back or I
will be dropped from my classes for my last semester until I
graduate. . It's a bunch of bullshit if you ask me, how dare you
take money that isn't yours, and most of all without the consent or
knowledge of the people who signed the promissary note! God, this
whole shcool is full of money hungry adminstrators and you need to
stop screwing everyone over. This school is a JOKE!!!!!!
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Business ventures |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
5/3/01 |
- This site has reached a large audience with no variance in
response. UNC-Greensboro...how much does your audience have to beg
and plead to get the message through? Is there something wrong with
our Marketing programs at the Bryan School? What happened to
integration of direct marketing and customer preference? What are
you marketing, UNC-Greensboro? The decision to keep Peabody Park
intact is worth consideration. Take a look at your audience, UNC-G.
Who is your target? What do you plan to achieve?
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
4/24/01 |
- The proposed solution to destroy the remaining portion of
Peabody Park is one of the more harebrained things I've heard of in
my three years at UNCG. Not only is the university planning to tear
down yet another green space to put up what is doubtless another
architectural monstrosity along the lines of the cheap-looking,
flimsy buildings that have been erected in past years, but it's
being done on the sly. The solution to both the housing and parking
shortage is simple: Raise admissions standards and restrict
freshman resident students from having cars. By doing these two
things, UNCG can truly begin to become the type of school it keeps
saying it wants to be.
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Preserve What Remains of Peabody
Park! |
Posted by: Faculty |
4/11/01 |
- As an instructor of earth and environmental science at UNCG, I
am saddened and dismayed by UNCG's latest plans to develop yet more
of one of the few remaining natural areas on campus. Peabody Park
is a tremendous teaching and research resource for our students.
Developing more of the park, will directly harm our students; not
to mention the natural environment of GSO.
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Staff |
4/9/01 |
- I have been a student on this campus as well as a current staff
member. Please do not do anything as destructive as tearing up
Peabody Park. I happen to work on a side of campus that has little
parking; however, I do not believe that adding a parking site and
dorm on the Park will help. We need to conserve this wonderful
space on campus not destory it. Use you money to add floors to
existing structures. Go up -- no out into the Park.
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Expansion of UNCG |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/6/01 |
- I am actually a parent of two daughters who attend UNCG. One of
the reasons they chose to attend UNCG was the size of the campus as
compared to some of the other branches of UNC. Believe it or not,
some students prefer smaller campuses. The fact that the campus has
so much green space was another factor in their choice of schools.
Destruction of Peabody Park would be a disaster for the future of
the campus. Greensboro has enough asphalt now. Save some natural
beauty before it is too late.
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Reaction to Master Plan presentation on April
5 |
Posted by: Staff |
4/6/01 |
- It was very inspiring and as an employee and an alumna I am so
excited about the future on this campus. Thank you for a great
plan.
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/4/01 |
- One of my favorite places on campus to study (or to just simply
"get away" for a while) is Peabody Park, both the woods and the
fields section. I can't imagine not being able to take a book and
read there due to this favorite spot being replaced by yet another
parking lot or dorm. I understand that each year, more students are
entering as freshmen and the need to expand UNCG is becoming more
and more important. But to that, I share many of the same possible
solutions that others have shared: build some place that is already
more urban and closer to campus rather than taking over Peabody
Park and if there must be more construction, build vertically
rather than leave a one-story building that takes up a lot of
space. Besides my personal feelings, Peabody Park has been used by
more than one of my biology classes (in one lab, we even took water
samples from there) and there is a natural amphitheater (I
apologize if that spelling is not correct) that is just waiting to
be used again. None of Peabody Park, however, is waiting to be
destroyed.
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Construction in Peabody Park |
Posted by: Staff |
4/4/01 |
- I think construction in the park is a terrible idea. It is a
beautiful area that should be conserved Habitat for many species
would be lost if this plan is carried out. I think it should be
left as is for everyone to enjoy
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It will never be a dorm |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
4/3/01 |
- If you think for a minute that they really plan to build a
parking lot *and* a dorm in Peabody Park you're crazy. They will
build the parking lot right away, like next year, and destroy as
much as they can, and then maybe 10 or 20 years later they might
get around to building a dorm, or maybe then they'll say, oops, ran
out of money, sorry, we'll just leave it as a parking lot.
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"Northeast Campus
Infrastructure" |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/2/01 |
- I am actually an alumna of UNCG. I earned two degrees at UNCG,
and in the process I spent several years there, both as a Resident
Student and as a Commuting Student. I have now taught at other
colleges and universities, and I can honestly say that wooded
areas, such as Peabody Park, are MUCH more valuable to a campus
than a little more parking or dorm space. UNCG has several other
areas in which to place such "infrastructure." Some of my favorite
moments on the UNCG campus were spent in Peabody Park, kicking
through leaves in the autumn or admiring the new growth of spring.
It is easy to forget that campus life consists of more than just
the activities held in classrooms or residence buildings. Although
the faculty and curricula were most important factors in my college
choice, the beautiful green and tree-covered areas of UNCG are a
large part of what attracted me to the campus in the first
place.
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Northeast Campus Infrastructure |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/2/01 |
- I earned two degrees at UNCG, and in the process I spent
several years there, both as a Resident Student and as a Commuting
Student. I now have taught at other colleges and universities, and
I can honestly say that wooded areas, such as Peabody Park, are
MUCH more valuable to a university campus than a little more
parking or dorm space. (Parking is always terrible at a
university!) UNCG has several other areas in which to place new
"infrastructure." Some of my favorite times at UNCG were spent in
Peabody Park, kicking through autumn leaves or admiring the new
growth of spring. It is easy to forget that campus life consists of
more than just the activities held in classrooms or residence
buildings. Although the faculty and curricula were most important
factors in my college choice, the beautiful green and tree-covered
areas of UNCG are a large part of what attracted me to the campus
in the first place.
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No expansion North towards
Westerwood |
Posted by: Staff |
4/2/01 |
- This is to express my opinion that UNCG should not expand North
towards Market Street and Friendly Avenues. There is not enough
space to significantly impact space needs. Why not continue to
access the space South near Yum, Yum's and businesses behind Yum,
Yum. I am an advocate for growth, but not at the expense of the
residents and tax payers of the community. My feeling is that there
is adequate space on the campus already and that it needs to be
better utilized.
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Peadbody Park |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
4/2/01 |
- Please avoid further encroachment on Peabody Park. As a
Greensboro citizen and a student at UNCG, I think it is important
to preserve all the natural areas that remain in this city. This
beautiful gift to the university must be preserved. Let's not pave
it over. If the university must continue to grow, it must make
smarter use its land or grow out into the community where there are
suitable properties available. I came from a much larger university
which was successfully converted to a pedestrian-friendly campus. I
think doing this in UNCG is feasible. It will also gain more space
for necessary buildings on campus. I consider any more parking
spaces on campus totally unnecessary. Encouraging walking, building
public transportation, and making the campus friendly for bicycle
commuting will go a long way toward improving the perceived parking
crunch.
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Resident Student |
3/30/01 |
- As a resident of Moore-Strong, every day I enjoy the view of
beautiful Peabody Park around my dorm. I have gone out into the
field to fly a kite and just to escape from the more crowded parts
of campus. The construction plan for this area should be cancelled
without a doubt. If new parking and housing is needed, it would be
wiser to build in the southern end of campus closer to the academic
buildings. I also suggest building another parking deck where the
current freshman lot is. Whatever the new plan may be, constructing
in Peabody Park is not the best option. We students enjoy the area
each day and do not want to see it developed into parking or
another residence hall.
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What it's about |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
3/29/01 |
- Where did anyone ever get the idea that this whole master plan
thing has anything to do with education? It's all about lining the
pockets of two or three trash millionaires on the board of
trustees. This place is no different than a shopping mall to
them.
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
3/28/01 |
- Most students do not live on campus for so I do not feel that
we need to a new dorm behind Moore-Strong in Peabody Park. We need
to look at ways to encourage better campus housing and ways to
improve housing in the community for students. If we do need a new
dorm there are other places to put it. Particularly more infill on
the South side of campus. I do like the idea of a multi-use
building with parking underneath. A dorm behind Moore Strong pulls
students away from the academic core of the University.
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Campus Spaces
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
5/11/01 |
- I am disturbed by UNCG's constant dissemination of
misinformation about Peabody park. Every time there is an article
in the Greensboro News & Record, the university fails to name
the field ecosystem part of Peabody Park. It is never included in
the overall acreage of the park. This field system is a very
important and integral park of Peabody Park. The outdoor
amphitheater is here as well as the historic "lake" area seen in
photos of the campus in earlier days. To compromise this ecosystem
for the sake of parking is unthinkable. There is other space for
dorms and parking, and if the plan would build up instead of out we
can save the beauty of the campus as well as the environmental
areas used for relaxation, contemplation and instruction. Peabody
Park, both the woodland and field ecosystems, is used as an
instructional site for many biology courses. Other courses use this
space to have classes outside in order to appreciate the beauty
around us. PLEASE DO NOT COMPROMISE PEABODY PARK FOR THE SAKE OF
PARKING!!!!!!
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An example from elsewhere |
Posted by: Campus Neighbor |
4/25/01 |
- I just did a search of the web to find information about campus
planning at other colleges. I found that the University of Chicago
master plan also proposed destroying some important historical
areas and ruining a local neighborhood. The neighbors decided the
only way to get the attention of the university administration was
to slap them with a lawsuit. Maybe Perkins Will and UNCG need the
same treatment to get them to be responsible in their management of
the UNCG campus and surrounding areas.
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Design of IdeaXchange |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/17/01 |
- I am a parent [and a taxpayer], but here is no place for me in
above box. Also, the pages don't scroll well so ideas are
truncated. A better design for comments will add credibilty to your
process. In addition, a narrative summary about possible use of
buildings, number of class rooms/labs or dorm rooms, etc. would
also help flesh out the concept plan. More later.
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Please Preserve OUR Park |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/12/01 |
- Have you been out to Peabody Park lately? Students in need of
the renewing presence of nature have flocked to our park recently!
Perhaps we could encourage more incorporation of the park into
students' daily lives by positioning a few picnic tables under the
pine tree grove behind Moore-Strong?! At any rate, please leave us
Peabody Park!!!!
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Please!!! |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/12/01 |
- Have you been out to Peabody Park lately? Students in need of
the renewing presence of nature have flocked to our park recently!
Perhaps we could encourage more incorporation of the park into
students' daily lives by positioning a few picnic tables under the
pine tree grove behind Moore-Strong?! At any rate, please leave us
Peabody Park!!!!
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Posted by: Faculty |
4/11/01 |
- As an instructor of earth and environmental science at UNCG, I
am saddened and dismayed by UNCG''''s latest plans to develop yet
more of one of the few remaining natural areas on campus. Peabody
Park is a tremendous teaching and research resource for our
students. Developing more of the park, will directly harm our
students; not to mention the natural environment of GSO.
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Peabody |
Posted by: Staff |
4/9/01 |
- Leave our park alone!
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peabody park |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
4/9/01 |
- i am deeply disappointed that the university does not value the
open space provided by peadbody park. as an alumnus, i will not
support uncg if they continue to develop peabody park!
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peabody park |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
4/9/01 |
- i am deeply disappointed that the university does not value the
open space that is offered by peabody park. as an alumnus, i will
not give any money if the university continues to develop peabody
park
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Faculty |
4/9/01 |
- Leave our park alone!
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
4/6/01 |
- To whom it may concern: I will be shortly writing a letter to
Chancellor Sullivan, but this is as good a way to communicate my
ideas as any, I imagine. I absolutely detest the fact the Peabody
Park is going to be sliced open, trampled, and otherwise ruined for
the "infrastructure" expansion in the Northeast quadrant of campus.
As a music student, I see no need to open up new pathways or
walkways or otherwise in this last remaining bit of nature in the
midst of a ghastly, wanna-be-cosmopolitan "let's overgrow
everything we have" campus. It sickens me that the University is
also wanting to put buildings in Peabody park by 2020. NO.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. If spent wisely, 150 Million dollars can do a hell
of a lot. Land values are rather cheap around campus, especially
south of Oakland avenue. For the park's sake, build the buildings
by Lee St. that were originally destined to go into Peabody park.
Or, if the University truly wanted to be a
service-oriented/student-centered university (hah), they could help
the city of Greensboro out and expand into downtown. Land is also
somewhat cheap there (comparativbely) and the city of Greensboro
wants more denizens actively passing through downtown. Look at it
this way... There are a lot of big-named universities with two
campuses: Duke, Harvard, Oxford, Ohio State, U-Wisconsin... We
could almost be in their league. I read a novel a few years back by
a Greensboro resident, Orson Scott Card. He claimed that many years
into teh future UNCG would be the largest state university in the
world. I suppose it's alright if UNCG feels that way, but leave
Peabody park alone. Keep this one piece of what Greensboro was at
one time in tact. There is no reason not too. Thomas J. Dempster
BM, Composition. 2001
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Preserve Peabody Park! |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/5/01 |
- Peabody Park is one aspect of campus that I appreciated before
ever even seriously considering applying to UNCG. I had always
envisioned myself attending a smaller school with old, beautiful
buildings surrounded by magnificent woods and streams; however, I
did not find this at any university I visited, and Peabody Park
seemed to be the closest thing that existed to the setting I so
adamantly desired. Therefore, had it not been for the Park, I may
not have chosen to come to the University of North Carolina at
Greensboro. Peabody Park has provided me with an invaluable
knowledge and appreciation for the environment that I might never
have attained otherwise. The park is truly of much educational
value for academic, economic, and personal reasons. Also, one must
ponder: why are many species of plants and animals threatened with
extinction right now? In part, this is because humans do not know
enough about the diversity surrounding them in order to appreciate
these many species and to try to protect them. As Thomas Berry
states in his book, The_Great_Work, "[now] is the time for
universities to rethink themselves and what they are doing" (85).
Therefore, UNCG should pride itself not in another brick building
that will separate more students from the heart of campus, but
rather in an appropriate and sustainable contribution to the dire
need of preserving open spaces and parks through the conservation
Peabody Park.
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Preserve the Park! |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/5/01 |
- Peabody Park is one aspect of campus that I appreciated before
ever even seriously considering applying to UNCG. I had always
envisioned myself attending a smaller school with old, beautiful
buildings surrounded by magnificent woods and streams; however, I
did not find this at any university I visited, and Peabody Park
seemed to be the closest thing that existed to the setting I so
adamantly desired. Therefore, had it not been for the Park, I may
not have chosen to come to the University of North Carolina at
Greensboro. Peabody Park has provided me with an invaluable
knowledge and appreciation for the environment that I might never
have attained otherwise. The park is truly of much educational
value for academic, economic, and personal reasons. Also, one must
ponder: why are many species of plants and animals threatened with
extinction right now? In part, this is because humans do not know
enough about the diversity surrounding them in order to appreciate
these many species and to try to protect them. As Thomas Berry
states in his book, The_Great_Work, "[now] is the time for
universities to rethink themselves and what they are doing" (85).
Therefore, UNCG should pride itself not in another brick building
that will separate more students from the heart of campus, but
rather in an appropriate and sustainable contribution to the dire
need of preserving open spaces and parks through the conservation
Peabody Park.
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/4/01 |
- Please reconsider any further reduction in the size of Peabody
Park. Properly cared for and maintained, the Park could be a
treasure to this university that no extra dorm or parking lot could
ever be. Pleas don't destroy beuty for the sake of mere
convienence!
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/4/01 |
- Please reconsider any further reduction in the size of Peabody
Park. Properly cared for and maintained, the Park could be a
treasure to this university that no extra dorm or parking lot could
ever be. Please don't destroy beuty for the sake of mere
convienence!
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/3/01 |
- At least leave us Peabody Park. That is all.
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/3/01 |
- It would be VERY unwise to build in Peabody Park. As I
understand it, there may be some confusion as to what area exactly
constitutes Peabody Park. The answer is, the entire campus. Most of
the recently-constructed buildings were built on land that was
originally designated as part of the Park. It is time for this to
stop. Peabody Park has been decimated by successive plans such as
the one which now proposes a new dormitory and parking area behind
Moore-Strong Hall. Not only would the residents of such a dormitory
be extremely isolated from the rest of the campus (the two dorms on
that far end of campus, Moore-Strong and Phillips-Hawkins already
are very isolated as it is), they would never be able to fully
appreciate the natural beauty of this campus, because their
concrete walls will have replaced that natural beauty. PLEASE
reconsider this construction proposal. It will not do
anyone--birds, bees, or students--any good at all. Thank you.
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/3/01 |
- Please leave the land that is to the west of Moore-Strong hall
untouched. It would be a shame to spoil the natural beauty of the
area for a dormitory or a parking lot, when there are other,
already demolished areas (such as the one near the EUC) that would
serve even better for dorms and parking lots. Leave our park alone;
it is one of the few natural havens we have left here.
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A simple solution to the Peabody Park
fiasco |
Posted by: Resident Student |
4/3/01 |
- So it looks like we have another Chancellor's House fiasco on
our hands. Here is a genuine simple solution to this Peabody Park
problem: the Perkins Will plan shows an empty space for a "green"
to the left of the EUC. That is the space that is now a gravel
parking lot. The solution is to pick up the proposed dorm/parking
lot from Peabody Park and drop it right into the space next to the
EUC. It will fit perfectly, put the students right in the center of
campus, preserve Peabody Park, and make good use of a space that is
already completely destroyed. Problem solved. If Perkins Will makes
that change I bet they won't hear any more complaints (unless UNCG
tries to override it and slip it through again).
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False information about Peabody
Park |
Posted by: Staff |
4/2/01 |
- It is curious that a few years ago, when a parking lot was
proposed in the Peabody Park fields, that the Division of Business
Affairs shamelessly manipulated the student government association
into concocting a misleading survey that they hoped would justify
that project. And now they are just as shamelessly making false
claims about the area not even being part of Peabody Park. Telling
the truth is not one of the university's strong points. But then
again, maybe it just depends on what your definition of "is"
is.
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staff center |
Posted by: Staff |
4/2/01 |
- UNCG needs a staff center to complement its student center and
faculty center. Part of the building could be used to provide
workshops as part of a much needed staff professional development
initiative.
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Commuter Student |
3/28/01 |
- We need to make Peabody Park a signature Park on
campusmaintained by the University much like other campuses. This
could be used as a promotional tool and would improve relations
with the community. It would also continue to serve as an
educational, scenic, and recreational resource.
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Peabody Park |
Posted by: Faculty |
3/28/01 |
- While I admire much of your plan, I adamently oppose the use of
the land west of the Moore-Strong Hall for development. As the use
of distance education at UNCG grows, there will be less need to
build dormitories and even parking lots. Thus, in a decade the
proposed constructions may not needed. But an area of scenic beauty
- which can be used to recruit students - would be destroyed
forever. Thus, I request that this area be deleted from use in the
Master Plan.
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